If you have been looking for a red sub however not able to afford one, here may be the answer. No.... it is not a perfect example but its almost the same price as a white submariner so you have nothing to loose. The dial has a small imperfection on the coronet and also the outer edge between 11-12 o'clock. The hands are tritium and are a slight shade lighter. The case is thick and even with clear numbers at 6 and 12. The bracelet is the original 9315 with 11 links. the insert has faded to a grey ghost color. The movement is running well and keeping excellent time.